AVE Ourense The AVE will not be buried by drawing technically 'unfeasible' Will there ever
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2011/02/24/galicia/1298571095.html
"The AVE will the city of Ourense buried without trace because technically it is "impractical," the director general of Railway Infrastructure, Carlos Juarez, who has indicated that the burial of the tracks would cause problems that would be "insurmountable" in the line from O Zamora Peliquín, and which runs from Santiago, where it would be "demolished" works "and executed."
LIE!!
if the bird does not get buried in Ourense is not technical feasibility but by following reasons:
- The Development Ministry has 7 years "from Olympian" of the proposals being made to underground Ourense (recall that in 2004 introduced the first of them by the Xunta de Galicia)
- Despite this, the Ministry of Public Works to bid for access Ourense from Santiago on October 7, 2009 (http : / / www.boe.es/boe/dias/2009/10/07/pdfs/BOE-B-2009-33840.pdf ). And legal access through the lining of passing balls rail integration study in Ourense, which was subject to public information on September 26, 2009 ( http://www.boe.es/boe/dias/2009/ 09/26/pdfs/BOE-B-2009-32460.pdf ). That is, come out come out as public information (the voice of the people ourensano and Galician) Ministry Development was already mortgaged the burial. Ourense bid from access to Santiago arriving at the surface supposed to Development had already made the decision that would make it come out to come out of the public information (very democratic). So, of course, any solution involves demolishing underground works recently executed.
- In Galicia, the Ministry of Public Works has NEVER had the slightest intention to implement any underground railway in Galicia. NEVER had the intention, the Ministry of Public Works to execute any rail integration. And so there is no exception Vigo, after much struggle and because Knight is a dangerous beast within the PSOE to deny. And here's proof: 7 years dizzy Partridge Ourense railway integration to get us now fear of saying that any underground Galician would delay the arrival of the AVE 3 years.
- The only truth in all this is that the Ministry of Public Works does not want to spend a euro more in Galicia strictly necessary. Approach certainly has not applied in other English regions.
CUNNING!
"The arguments of Juarez to rule the underground also focused on that" not address urban integration "should be demolition works already carried out, would affect the line of the AVE Ourense-Santiago, and a change of route would require a "new study report", which would result in a delay of the project of "2 or 3 years." He also said that the cost would be "much higher" but wanted to make clear that the main reason is "technical". "
The reasons the Ministry of Development of the Galician José Blanco (why did not he come tell?)
1) would be demolished works already carried
Yes, but because the Ministry of Development. In other cities came the AVE and come to the surface as interim phase pending the burial.
2) would affect the AVE Ourense-Santiago
Yes, but let's analyze the situation. El AVE Madrid - Valencia swung open, all at once. There was no rush to make partial inaugurations What the hell's the rush to inaugurate only 100 miles from Madrid-Galicia? In addition, access to Ourense surface may be left temporarily and continue working on the underground.
3) It takes 2-3 years
Yes, but only in the burial of Ourense. The Madrid-Galicia could be operating fully with the interim step on the surface Ourense. Development Does not know how to keep rail service if run a burial? Does Ourense is the world's most unique city?
4) The cost would be much higher. Yes
is a great truth, and is the only argument of the Ministry of Development. We know that the rest of Spain are monumental works of hundreds and thousands of millions of euros while Galicia (7% of the English population) racanea us all.
More details in the brochure of the Ministry of Public Works: http://www.fomento.es/NR/rdonlyres/2DC5DF28-660C-4AE7-93BC-6BA0341116C8/99601/11022401.pdf
saddest thing all this is that the Ministry of Development will continue with his plan and here is not going to happen. Or press or political, or technical. All as a submissive sheep again.
shameless!
In other media nuance the words of the Ministry:
"Besides the possible delay of" two or three years "would generate over the period of 2015, according to Victor Morlan, a new route to Ourense, the Ministry Development described as "technically almost unfeasible" the underground. "
( http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/galicia/2011/02/25/0003_201102G25P4991.htm )
Well, it is not feasible but CASI unfeasible.
milongas, tell us: the underground is technically feasible, there is a delay in the arrival of the AVE (Ourense would provisionally on the surface) but simply a delay in the burial, and yes of course it is a more expensive solution. But is the solution they deserve Galicians like the rest of the English.
And is that while this blog has already been repeated ad nauseam examples of burial in Spain (see http://infraestructurasgalicia.blogspot.com/2010/07/soterrar-santiago-me-da-la-risa . html , http://infraestructurasgalicia.blogspot.com/2009/09/la-reiterada-integracion-ferroviaria.html , http://infraestructurasgalicia.blogspot.com/2009/06/integracion-urbana-de la high-velocidad.html or http://infraestructurasgalicia.blogspot.com/2009/11/santiago-de-compostela-y-galicia-en.html ), finally in the press begin to become aware of the blatant discrimination:
Thirty-seven cities with underground routes
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/galicia/2011/02/25/0003_201102G25P4992.htm
"At least 37 cities with a total of 63-projects have completed, under construction or planned, to bury the tracks in urban areas. The national percentage is 58%, which is reduced more dramatically in Galicia, where only Vigo has a project approved and implemented for the high-speed urban branch is constructed in the basement. "
"(...) on that list there are many cities of similar size to that of Ourense, between 100,000 and 135,000 inhabitants, such as Cadiz, Jaen or Leon. Or even with far fewer people, such as Palencia, San Feliu de Llobregat, Villena, Benalmádena, Lorca, Puerto Real, Mollet del Vallés, Illescas and Talavera de la Reina. "
Thankfully at least denunciation of the underground do some case to Public Works Engineering Xosé Carlos Fernandez, because this blog takes years to be reported this issue and nobody cared.
Certainly there is also an interesting blog Telecommunications Engineer Francisco Díaz Pardo (though not specific to Galicia), which compiles information railway. It is advisable to read the post dedicated to access to Galicia ( http://trenecicos.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/detalles-de-la-lav-a-galicia-entre-puebla-de-sanabria-y -sur-de-ourense / )
I can not conclude without calling attention to a fact that has gone totally unnoticed in recent days, which is none other than the mounting competition through access to Ourense, connection with the Atlantic Axis and remodelaciónde Station routes of Santiago de Compostela ( http://www.boe.es/boe/dias/2011/02/17/pdfs/BOE-B-2011-5534.pdf ).
These actions are necessary to operate the AVE Ourense-Santiago-Coruña Development Minister José Blanco promised for late 2011. Well, as we read in the advertisement, bid opening will be May 5. If we add 2 months to the final award, the signing of the contract and the start of work (at best) and 4 months of delay in execution of works, we get in December 2011. But it still needs to do the test period ... Really there
AVE from Ourense and Corunna in late 2011? Or has to wait for general elections in March 2012?
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